Legislature(2007 - 2008)SENATE FINANCE 532

03/29/2007 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE


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09:08:18 AM Start
09:08:43 AM SB123
09:18:53 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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= SB 123 PUBLIC EMP./TEACHERS/JUDGES EMP. BENEFITS
Moved CSSB 123(FIN) Out of Committee
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                    SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                  
                         March 29, 2007                                                                                       
                           9:08 a.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                              
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bert Stedman convened the meeting at approximately                                                                     
9:08:18 AM.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Lyman Hoffman, Co-Chair                                                                                                 
Senator Bert Stedman, Co-Chair                                                                                                  
Senator Charlie Huggins, Vice Chair                                                                                             
Senator Kim Elton                                                                                                               
Senator Joe Thomas                                                                                                              
Senator Fred Dyson                                                                                                              
Senator Donny Olson                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Also Attending: ANNETTE KREITZER, Commissioner, Department of                                                                 
Administration                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Attending via Teleconference: There were no teleconference                                                                    
participants                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY INFORMATION                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SB 123-PUBLIC EMP./TEACHERS/JUDGES EMP. BENEFITS                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The Committee heard from the Department of Administration. One                                                                  
amendment was adopted and the bill reported from Committee.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:08:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL NO. 123                                                                                                        
     "An  Act relating  to the  public  employees' and  teachers'                                                               
     defined  benefit retirement  plans; relating  to the  public                                                               
     employees'  and  teachers' defined  contribution  retirement                                                               
     plans; relating to the  judicial retirement system; relating                                                               
     to  the health  reimbursement arrangement  plan for  certain                                                               
     teachers and public employees;  relating to the supplemental                                                               
     employee benefit program; relating  to the public employees'                                                               
     deferred compensation  program; relating to  group insurance                                                               
     for  public   employees  and  retirees;   making  conforming                                                               
     amendments; and providing for an effective date."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This was  the third hearing for  this bill in the  Senate Finance                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  stated that  this retirement  system "technical                                                               
clarification  bill"   was  applicable  to  the   State's  Public                                                               
Employees  Retirement  System   (PERS)  and  Teachers  Retirement                                                               
System (TRS)  as well as  individuals employed  by municipalities                                                               
and the University of Alaska system.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  asked  that Members  communicate  any  concern                                                               
regarding this legislation as the  intent was to report this bill                                                               
from Committee today.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:10:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Amendment #1: This amendment deletes  "In addition, the amount of                                                               
[THE]  contributions  and interest  due  may  be claimed  by  the                                                           
administrator from [DEDUCTED BY]  the Department of Education and                                                             
Early Development  from the state  funds due the  school district                                                               
[AND THE AMOUNT  SO DEDUCTED TRANSMITTED TO THE  PLAN FOR DEPOSIT                                                               
IN  THE  RETIREMENT  FUND]."  from  AS  14.25.062(b)  amended  by                                                               
Section 1 on page 2, lines 3  through 7, and replaces it with the                                                               
following.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
          [IN ADDITION, THE AMOUNT OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND                                                                     
     INTEREST MAY BE DEDUCTED BY  THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION AND                                                               
     EARLY  DEVELOPMENT  FROM  THE STATE  FUNDS  DUE  THE  SCHOOL                                                               
     DISTRICT AND THE AMOUNT SO  DEDUCTED TRANSMITTED TO THE PLAN                                                               
     FOR DEPOSIT IN THE RETIREMENT FUND.]                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The  amendment  also  deletes  the  following  language  from  AS                                                               
14.25.370 amended by Section 24 on page 11, lines 14 through 17.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
          In addition, the amount of contributions and interest                                                                 
     due may be claimed by  the administrator from the Department                                                               
     of Education and Early Development  from the state funds due                                                               
     the school district."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     New Text Underlined [DELETED TEXT BRACKETED]                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton moved Amendment #1.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:10:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton   explained  that  current  law   would  allow  an                                                               
administrator from  the Department of Health  and Social Services                                                               
"to  intercept  dollars  that  would  otherwise  be  going  to  a                                                               
political  subdivision"  when  there was  cause.  This  amendment                                                               
"rescinds  that  ability  in  one   case";  that  being  that  an                                                               
administrator  would be  prohibited from  intercepting foundation                                                               
formula dollars going to a school district.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton expressed  that the purpose of the  amendment is to                                                               
ensure that "as  we administer the system that we  don't do it in                                                               
a way  that penalizes innocents, and,  in this case, it  would be                                                               
school  children   that  benefit  from  the   foundation  formula                                                               
dollars".                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman noted  that this concern had  been raised during                                                               
previous discussions on the bill.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:11:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ANNETT  KREITZER,  Commissioner,  Department  of  Administration,                                                               
voiced no objection  to the amendment. She  assured Senator Elton                                                               
"that we would never penalize innocents".                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Olson  asked whether  any other  entity besides  a school                                                               
district would be affected by the amendment.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton specified that this  was "a very discreet amendment                                                               
that applies to the foundation formula only".                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton  assured Commissioner  Kreitzer he was  not worried                                                               
about her  management of the  system. He was "more  worried about                                                               
those who come behind".                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Stedman  emphasized  that   educating  children  was  a                                                               
responsibility of  the State.  The State  would not  remove funds                                                               
from K-12  education or individual  schools were there  a problem                                                               
"with a particular member of the retirement system".                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman removed his objection.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
There being no further objection, Amendment #1 was ADOPTED.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton  advised  the  Committee  that  he  had  developed                                                               
another  amendment [copy  on file]  pertaining to  administrative                                                               
procedures. However,  that amendment  would not be  offered since                                                               
he  had not  had  an  opportunity to  discuss  his concerns  with                                                               
either  the Alaska  Retirement Management  Board  (ARMB) or  with                                                               
Commissioner Kreitzer.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Elton stated  that a copy of the amendment  as well as an                                                               
accompanying memorandum  from the Division of  Legal and Research                                                               
Services, Legislative  Affairs Agency  [copy not  provided] would                                                               
be distributed to Members.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman acknowledged.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:15:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Kreitzer voiced  appreciation  for the  Committee's                                                               
attention to this "very technical bill".                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:15:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  observed that no  one had signed up  to testify                                                               
on the bill.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:15:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Elton appreciated  the  effort that  had  been taken  in                                                               
developing this "fix-it bill"; however,  since he did not believe                                                               
that  all   the  issues  pertaining   to  the   recently  revised                                                               
retirement  systems had  been thoroughly  addressed, he  would be                                                               
casting a  "no recommendation"  vote on  this bill.  Further work                                                               
would be required.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:17:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Hoffman  moved to  report the  bill from  Committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations   and  one   previous  and   one  new                                                               
Department of Administration fiscal note.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman  affirmed that a  new zero fiscal note  had been                                                               
developed by the Department of Administration.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
There  being  no  objection,  CSSB  123(FIN)  was  REPORTED  from                                                               
Committee  with two  Department of  Administration fiscal  notes:                                                               
previous zero  fiscal note #1  and a  new zero fiscal  note dated                                                               
March 20, 2007.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Stedman thanked Commissioner Kreitzer for her                                                                          
assistance with the bill.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Bert Stedman adjourned the meeting at 9:18:53 AM.                                                                    

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